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Answer by Mikaela for [feature-request] XMPP OTR support in messages

I opened the separate thread on OMEMO here: https://together.jolla.com/question/133414/feature-request-omemo-support/ I know I probably shouldn't make this an answer, but I cannot make any sense of the...

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Comment by null

"I don't understand how to use OTR, so that must mean it's broken and therefore no one is allowed to request it, since it'd prove me wrong if other people were actually able to use it and we can't have...

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Comment by nthn

If you aren't using either of those clients, you're using one with an OTR implementation full of bugs. Not only do you insist on using a broken protocol, you insist on a broken implementation of it as...

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Comment by null

Also, claiming to know best what the other 300 people want is the top of your arrogance.

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Comment by null

OTR works and has been working for years. OMEMO is supported by two clients I don't and won't use and no one I know uses. That's entirely besides the point though. Even if OMEMO was the absolute...

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Comment by nthn

@null: Of the 300 people who voted for it, I would guess 298 don't care what the name of the encryption protocol is, as long as it works. OMEMO does, and can. OTR doesn't, can't, and won't. I will...

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Comment by null

And I still say, if you want a feature implemented, stop overtaking other feature requests and make your own. Well, I downvoted and unfollowed your stolen request. Too lazy for an editwar over a...

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Comment by nthn

It's also possible to use OMEMO in group chats now. To hell with OTR.

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Comment by MartinK

@nthn: Nice! :)

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Comment by nthn

As a follow up, the 'planned' desktop implementation is already here: https://github.com/omemo/gajim-omemo

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Comment by nthn

@MartinK: but it never gets sent in plain text. It's sent encrypted to all of your devices that support OMEMO and whose keys you have trusted, any other devices don't receive anything at all. Again, if...

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Comment by MartinK

@nthn: I just mean it should only be readable on the device you are on by default until you clear additional devices. And this should preferably be per contact, as there might be some conversations...

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Comment by nthn

@ExTechOp: saying that it's available for multiple clients/platforms is meaningless when you consider that in most clients, the plugin implementing OTR support hasn't been updated in years and probably...

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Comment by MartinK

@hobarrera: What you see as technical limitations I see as a potential security vulnerability - at least if the decryptable OMEMO messages would be sent to all users connected devices without explicit...

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Comment by ExTechOp

@nthn Desktop implementation of OMEMO is *planned* vs. OTR which is currently available for diverse platforms and protocols (like irc). The best-laid schemes o' mice an' men Gang aft agley, An' lea'e...

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Comment by nthn

@ExTechOp: for one, Jolla has nothing to do with this. It needs to be implemented in Telepathy, once it's available there it can work in Sailfish instantly (probably some UI would be needed, of...

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Comment by ExTechOp

The following is not meant as a personal comment to you, but as general observations on the development of different internet chat protocols and client/server software. I've seen several very promising...

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Comment by nthn

I just meant to say that OTR is completely and utterly deprecated by OMEMO, everything OTR does is done better by OMEMO, so there is no point in supporting it anymore (and judging by the extreme lack...

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Comment by null

I'm not trolling, I just don't have the problems you're describing. In any case, this question is about OTR support, if you want another encryption technology I'd suggest starting a new topic.

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Comment by WhyNotHugo

People stop trolling like this. Telling people not to switch devices, or to alter how they work isn't how you deal with technical limitations. You adapt software to people's needs, not the other way...

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